Mets vs Phillies
Two cities, one division, and a grudge older than the expansion era.
The Mets–Phillies rivalry is one of the National League East's most storied intra-divisional feuds, pitting the young, brash New York expansion club (founded 1962) against the Philadelphia institution whose lineage stretches back to 1883. Since the NL East was formed in 1969, the two franchises have shared a division, a fan base's attention, and a long list of postseason collisions that turned every regular-season series into a de facto playoff.
For a Miami Marlins fan, this rivalry is the gravitational center of the division. Whether you're a third-generation Philadelphia kid or a New York transplant in Fort Lauderdale, the Mets–Phillies clash is the argument that defines what it means to be an NL East team: loud, personal, and never quite settled.
- Division
- National League East (since 1969)
- Mets founded
- 1962 (expansion)
- Phillies founded
- 1883
- Notable NLCS matchups
- 1973, 1980, 1986, 1993
- Iconic Phillies player
- Mike Schmidt (third baseman, 1974–1986)
- Iconic Mets player
- Tom Seaver (pitcher, 1967–1976)
- Iconic Phillies pitcher
- Steve Carlton (1970–1986)
Lore & Background
When the National League added the East and West divisions in 1969, the Mets and Phillies were thrown together like two kids forced to share a locker. Philadelphia, with its century of baseball tradition and its stubborn, blue-collar identity, regarded the Mets as a novelty — a team of kids from a city that had just discovered it could build a ballpark. New York, meanwhile, saw the Phillies as a small-market club that needed to be reminded of its place. Neither side was entirely wrong, and that mutual underestimation became the fuel for decades of competitive fire.
The 1970s turned the rivalry into a genuine war. The Mets assembled a pitching staff headlined by Tom Seaver, and the Phillies answered with the most dominant third baseman of the generation in Mike Schmidt and a lefty arm in Steve Carlton that could bend a curveball into a question mark. Regular-season series in the 1970s and early 1980s were frequently decided in the ninth inning, with both bullpens trading blows and both fan bases screaming at the umpires with equal venom. The 1973 and 1980 NLCS matchups elevated the rivalry from divisional squabble to national spectacle.
By the mid-1980s the rivalry had a mythology of its own. The 1986 NLCS, in which the Mets came back from a 3-1 hole and the 'Pumpkin Ball' controversy cast a long shadow over the series, became the story New York fans tell at every barbecue. Philadelphia, for its part, points to 1980 and to Schmidt's legacy as proof that the division's soul belongs to the city of Brotherly Love. For the Marlins, who entered the NL East in 1993, this rivalry was the living, breathing context of their own identity — the reason the division felt like a neighborhood where everyone knew your name and your grudges.
In Their Own Story
October 1986. The air in the park is thick and cold, the kind of New York autumn that makes the lights look golden. A Phillies pitcher winds up, releases, and the ball — somehow, impossibly — drifts toward the plate in a way no one expected. The Mets catcher adjusts his grip, the batter squares up, and the crowd noise shifts from a roar to a held breath. Somewhere in the stands, a kid in a Phillies cap is already arguing with his father about whether the ball was 'doctored.' In Miami, a teenager with a radio under his pillow hears the call and whispers, 'That's the division I'm in now.' The ball is hit. The argument will last thirty years.
Reader's Guide
The rivalry was born in 1969 when baseball's expansion era reshaped the leagues and the Mets and Phillies were slotted into the same National League East division. For the first decade, the Phillies — a franchise tracing its roots to 1883 — treated the young Mets as an upstart curiosity. That changed in the 1970s, when the Mets built a contender around Tom Seaver and the Phillies answered with the golden era of Mike Schmidt and Steve Carlton.
The 1973 NLCS gave both cities their first taste of postseason warfare. The 1980 NLCS swung the other way, with Philadelphia taking the series. But no meeting looms larger than the 1986 NLCS, where the Mets overcame a 3-1 deficit and the infamous 'Pumpkin Ball' controversy became a generational touchstone for New York fans.
For a Marlins fan in the stands at Marlins Park — or, in earlier years, at the old Florida Field — this rivalry was the backdrop against which the team's own NL East identity was forged. Watching Schmidt's thunderous home runs or Carlton's slow curveballs from the third-base side made the division feel like a family, and the Mets-Phillies clash was the loudest, most personal argument at the dinner table.
Did You Know?
- The Mets entered MLB as a 1962 expansion team, meaning the rivalry began with New York as the younger, unproven franchise in the pairing.
- Mike Schmidt's tenure with the Phillies (1974–1986) overlapped almost perfectly with the rivalry's most competitive and memorable decade.
- The 1986 NLCS 'Pumpkin Ball' incident became one of the most debated controversies in Mets-Phillies history and is still referenced by fans of both clubs.
- The Marlins joined the NL East in 1993, meaning the team's entire existence as a franchise has been defined by watching — and competing against — this rivalry from the division's third seat.
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